My experience is that when I have tried to love someone who didn't love themselves ( lots of destructive behavior, inauthenticity, dishonesty)
that they actively rejected the love.
It was also the other way around. When I was so depressed, angry, insecure , I actively rejected the efforts of people to love me. I felt like I knew I was loved but couldn't feel it, couldn't process that I was cherished. I felt worthless.
It wasn't until recently that I have enough self-love, self-esteem to feel worthy of real love.
that they actively rejected the love.
It was also the other way around. When I was so depressed, angry, insecure , I actively rejected the efforts of people to love me. I felt like I knew I was loved but couldn't feel it, couldn't process that I was cherished. I felt worthless.
It wasn't until recently that I have enough self-love, self-esteem to feel worthy of real love.
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 2:37 PM
>> Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
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No... someone who does not love themselves on some level will not consider themselves worth loving and they will not be able to respect you for loving someone not worth loving.
>> It wasn't until recently that I have enough self-love,
>> self-esteem to feel worthy of real love.
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 8:08 AMAs a person who doesnt love herself that much,i must say that both of your post just hit the spot in me. Its funny whan you read something like this and than realize, shit thats me,hi hi ,o well.
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 10:22 AMwell, as someone who does love myself mostly, I find it's a struggle. A day to day, sometimes minute to minute struggle. I'll be on a good roll for a while then it's back to a uphill battle for days if not weeks. Depending on how you were raised, I think it will always be a struggle , at least for me. -
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Tue, April 1, 2008 - 11:24 AMSo you are generally OK with yourself, but your selflove does tend to fluctuate? -
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Tue, April 1, 2008 - 12:08 PMyeah, the "generally ok with my self love " is new to me. I was in a destructive relationship for 2006 and it was very hard to love myself in that. So when It was done I made a real point of discovering my own love, so I didn't have to feel so needy from other peopke for it.
I also have gotten back in school and done some other things I am proud of in the last year or so. But yeah, it flucuates. It actually plataeu's and then I find I need to grow a bit more in self love and then it's another uphill trek. Like to become a therapist ( I am in grad school for my masters of pyschology ) I will need a lot of self love, self faith to just to get through school, much less be there for my clients. And if I get into a new relationship, I need more self skills to take care of myself better than I have before in other relationships. ( that's my major struggle right now, I'm seeing a new guy and often times I will neglect my own stuff to spend time with him, NOT GOOD) . And parenting, if/when that happens. I need to love myself greatly to be able to love my children. So it's constant growth, up times and down times and ever expanding goodness. It's a journey for sure. I am just now getting out of the woods ( self loathing wise , did that way too long ) -
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Tue, April 1, 2008 - 12:24 PMWell it sounds to me like you are getting better and better. Its like you are building some great new life for you, its great!
And, this destructive relationship ,was it with the person in your first post ? How is that person now -
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 2:46 PMyes, the relationship was the person in the post. It's really hard to tell he is. He has a wall up, I think for everyone to not see him, but particularely with me.
He is young and he's into going out all the time and drinking with his friends , and dating a bevy of women. But he still lives at home, has never lived without his parents/grandparents looking after him. He's almost 25. ( I'm a bit judgemental about that I know, I like a man who lives on his own and takes care of his own finances, his own relationships stuff, his own business ) He got into a rebound relationship right after us. He's probably the same as when I left him. I didn't see a lot of movement towards growth or self love. He's happy-go-lucky, with a lot of anger, dissasciation issues underneath. Almost completely unaware of the co-dependancy and anger he carries around.
I don't know how that works, it's a mystery. He's very hard to talk to you. I know I don;t make it easy myself.
My mom actually said of him " he seems like a guy who has floated around not thinking too deeply about anything, not caring that much about stuff" . It was true. I also blame his parents, totally coddled, living at home, wealthy 25 year old. It's cute at 22, it's getting old at 25, But that's my opinion. He wasn't an adult exactly.
But whatever, i didn't take care of myself either. I didn't beleive that I was worthy, I didn't know/love myself like I should have been. Had I done that I would not have dated him for a year , hoping things would change any time. That's what I'm saying about the self love, it may take years and the lack of it to show you how much self love you have and how much more you need .
( by the way I am considering becoming a life coach and I want to teach this stuff to people, because I am getting the idea that lack of self-love is at the root of almost all dis-ease ) -
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 3:41 PMYou are right, lack of self love is the root of almost all diseases. All that negative energy inside can make you an easy target for getting sick. Plus, when you dont love yourself, you dont really take care of your self,couse you generally dont care. You cant be really happy person if you dont love yourself, its like a constant inner wound.
Good luck with your life coach pursuits, with all that psychology knowledge and life experience, i´m sure its gonna be a success -
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 3:35 PM"Can You Love someone who cannot Love themselves"? Yes I can!! Loving People has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING to do with whether or not THEY Love themSELVES!! To NOT Love someone just because He or She doese not Love themselves is EXTREMELY Selfish and Self-Centerd and should NOT be tolorated!! My Friend Stephen is a Person With Albinism and most People With Albinism have a low level of self esteem because of the pregeduses against them. I blame the Movie Industrey for it!!!
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 3:38 PMPlease get some Self Respect Ana. -
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Sat, May 31, 2008 - 4:42 PMI go have self respect, i stand for my self, and i never let people to walk over me. I didnt clarify here my relatoinship with myself,so you cant really judge it. i do know what aspects of myself are standing in a way of truly accepting myself and i am working on it. So im realy not in that bad shape as you think -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 11:32 AMAna,...I requested that You get some Self Respect because of that statement You made about Youreself!! In Youre statement, YOU included the words "Shit like Me". THAT Statemend very strongly implies a total lack of Self Respect even if You are just joking or kidding around! Please do NOT Insult and Degrade Youreself like that. -
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:14 PMLoving people : not just the feelings of love but the actions of love and more specifically the love of a mutually loving relationship: that's what cannot be done if someone does not love themselves.
They won't let the love in, much less be able to mirror it back.
I believe I can feel feelings of love for anyone, it's the Loving ( verb) that takes some reciprication, at least the allowing it into your life. People who feel worthy of love let themselves be loved, whereas people who cannot love themselves do not let love in.
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Re: Can you love someone who cannot love themselves?
Mon, June 23, 2008 - 1:00 PMacctualy i wrote shit, thats me,but you totaly missed the whole point in me and this topic
But since youre gone off tribe now ,its doesnt really matters anymore
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